Comments on: Is Flickr Hiding Screenshots? (via 3pointd.com)

By: Finally: flickr is getting rid of NIPSA! « Tao’s Thoughts on Second Life

Fri, 04 May 2007 10:12:59 +0000

[...] but nevertheless I want to report on it as I was one of the opponents of the whole NIPSA thing (see here and for the rest here, Wired article with a statement from myself and Spin/Eric [...]

By: Tao’s Thoughts » Updates on the “flickr hiding screenshots” case

Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:21:20 +0000

[...] I’ve blogged about the problem with flickr (first found here) a while back and recently raised some disussion (and here, too) in the flickr forums and told people about it. Nice to see that Eric Rice and Torley also do blog about it and . I also contacted flickr in order to get some information about wether all the facts are correct and the answer was (unfortunately) positive. Or short, as Ana just pointed me to the community guidelines. As additional result my account is marked as NIPSA now, too. (and I am not the only one, look here for a flickr discussion search) [...]

By: taotakashi

taotakashi — Fri, 26 May 2006 22:58:12 +0000

Bryan: In fact gamma might be the problem with that photo of Adam Curry. But there’s at least one reported problem that it is the TOS of them which prevents shots from SL if they notice it.

By: Tao’s Thoughts » Episode 2 of “Yesterday in my Second Life”

Thu, 25 May 2006 23:26:40 +0000

[...] Coming back from Club Camarilla to my plot I found the next group of fans and after they left I moved got an IM that the rooftop party at Federated Media is just starting (which was at 3am in my morning already actually but who cares, today if holiday here). So I also went there and met another bunch of cool people (from whom I knew some already from IRC), like Frans Charming, Aimee Weber, Hamlet of course, Hal9k Andalso, Games Prototype, Spin Martin (I meet him everywhere these days), Tateru Nino and many more. I will upload photos of them to flickr as soon as that screenshot issue is solved (or not, who knows) but some are attached already. It was a nice hangout of various people from Second Life and for doing some business with Federated Media you were also able to meet Lovisa Tackleberry who does the advertising for it. I guess Hamlet will write more about it later [...]

By: Bryan Page

Bryan Page — Thu, 25 May 2006 23:12:11 +0000

I think SL shots are okay on Flickr. Check out mine at http://flickr.com/photos/tags/podshowbrothel and see if those work for you. I think the issue is a bug since Flickr went to Gamma and has affected many pictures, not just SL shots. Check out what they say about it on their site.

By: taotakashi

taotakashi — Thu, 25 May 2006 20:48:31 +0000

Just an update: Adam Curry seems to be blocked, too , at flickr, as one can see here. They really need to get this sorted out, it's very uncool IMHO.

By: Jason Pettus

Jason Pettus — Wed, 24 May 2006 18:52:38 +0000

I’ve been posting screenshots from SL to my Flickr account [flickr.com/photos/jasonpettus]for about a month now, and have had no problems from Flickr as far as copyright issues. Please be warned, however, that Flickr treats sexually graphic screenshots from the game the same way as human sexual shots; that is, you’re expected to tag them as “restricted” (so that only your contacts can see them), and not to post X-rated material at all.

Also, now that I’ve been posting screenshots myself, I’ve learned of another complication, this time completely sociological; that many SL players consider screenshots the same as real-life photographs, with all the restrictions that come with it. (No “photos” on private property, that is, obtain a person’s permission before posting a photo, etc.) Taking and posting screenshots of Second Life is a more complicated thing than maybe some people realize, because of the unique way that many players think of the game; I urge people to use caution and to ask permission of others whenever possible.

–Miller Copeland (SL) / Jason Pettus (RL)

By: taotakashi

taotakashi — Wed, 24 May 2006 18:14:42 +0000

Well, as you might see from my stream I just did the same. I actually have a separate account for my real world photos.
I just haven’t tested yet the turnout of my photos in searches but will do that shortly.

I might also make this a topic in the flickr forums. But if there’s no statement from flickr about it I might simply search for an alternative and spend my money elsewhere.

And I also think they are no screenshots but this might be some sort of grey zones as might be with many things happen in the virtual world. Thus I would see this as sign that we are on the innovation side of things

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 24 May 2006 17:49:25 +0000

Thanks for picking up on my cry in the wilderness.

FWIW, you will not have an issue if you mix your SL snapshots in with a more usual mix of photos of flowers, food, people wearing silly hats, cute puppies, clouds…. My mistake was loading it first with SL snapshots only.

But I still contend they are NOT screen shots.